Orlando Weekly's Best of Orlando Poll Called into Question by Copper Rocket Pub Owner


By Mark Baratelli
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The day after Orlando Weekly's 2016 Annual Best of Orlando party, Selman Markovic, owner of the Copper Rocket Pub in Maitland, published an epic Facebook post (which has since been deleted) and created this online petition asking for Orlando Weekly Editor Jessica Bryce Young to disclose their Best of Orlando vote tallies.

The owner said the "voting is fake," the "most important awards" are chosen by their editorial staff...it’s a dark and distressing reality when an honest campaign, by the people, is shut down because it does not fit in with the editorial staff opinions."

Markovic says he created paper ballots for his patrons to use for the voting. The bar owner shared photos of the paper ballots in the comments and even says "We have physical proof of thousands of votes..."

Below are the reasons why Markovic feels like the vote is rigged as outlined in his Facebook post (scroll for the rant):

1. "Orlando weekly does not use a third party system for their voting. This year they simply used software to collect the data called, Second Street. Their editorial staffs, all 4-5 of them, were still in charge of tallying 'votes...'”

2. "The exact same businesses that did not campaign at all, also had over 100 articles written about them by the Orlando Weekly staff editors and reporters..."

3. "Is it a coincidence that businesses that did not campaign for any votes won first, second and third place in the biggest categories? Though strange, we can’t simply assume anyone is cheating just because they didn’t even campaign..."

4. "What if I told you about a local business that collected several thousand, with a capital T, votes from its customers in the very same categories that would normally go to their usual winners?"

5. "The exact same business’s that did not campaign at all, also had over 100 articles written about them by the Orlando Weekly staff editors and reporters? The editorial staff have made no secret to anyone who their favorite places to hang out are, and they tell all of us on a weekly basis to go there too."

6. "Orlando weekly does not release any stats at all as to the number of votes any business receives, ever."

Former Orlando Weekly employees Erin Sullivan and Ashley Belanger gave some behind the scenes on how the voting works in the comments section below the rant.

Belanger stated, "As someone who has counted the votes in the past for the category you belong, I can confirm there is not only no rigging to this system, but we spend countless hours into making sure that the votes are counted and represented, even when we disagree and roll our eyes at repeat winners, year after year."

Former Editor Sullivan shared why the papers don't share exact vote numbers publicly. "I can say why I personally would never want to show those numbers when I was the editor: Because no matter what you do or how you do it, when you run this poll you get raked over the coals by businesses who are hurt, upset or angry that they didn't win. And when they see how badly they didn't win, they accuse you of not counting all of their votes. Or if they see how massively somebody ELSE won, they accuse that person of cheating or ballot stuffing, paying for votes or otherwise being a terrible business. If they did the ballot stuffing and got caught, they then cry foul because they advertise. The list goes on and on, and the conversations sometimes degrade into accusations of illegal activity and border on defamation. I've worked for three alt-weeklies in different cities, and the words may be different, but the song is always the same. Sadly, this poll always brings out the worst in people, and while it's a fun issue to read if you're a reader, it's often an absolute nightmare if you work for the publication."

She went on to share why they used a third party vote-counting system. "We used to do it in-house, and we had our own software that tallied the votes and it took FOREVER. Like, weeks. Then Second Street Media developed a polling software that we switched to, because it became the "industry standard" for a lot of media companies and it's used by lots of weeklies for their polls. It tallies the votes for you in a preliminary way, but then the editors have to go in and make aaaaaalllll of the votes match up right. So if Le Coq Au Vin gets 600 votes, and La Cock Oh Vine got antoher 150, then Le Coq got another 1,000, the computer can't tally that. You have to do it manually.

Below is the full Copper Rocket Facebook post by Markovic and below that are the Facebook comments as of Thursday afternoon: 


"An open letter to the Editor of Orlando Weekly:
For 25 years, you have been the pulse of Orlando’s art, culture, and alternative news yet for being the “people’s paper” free to anyone that wants one, you’ve become drunk on your own influence. You now host more events and parties than a fraternity of UCF, you maintain a small core paid staff, and “employ” hundreds of unpaid interns to manage your events, and that small paid staff of editors have enough bias collectively to make Donald Trump as border patrol agent or Hillary Clinton as an ethics advisory, look legit as hell, respectively. When did you become this way? Have you always been this daft in your choices of articles? Do you feel your 4-5 paid voices are more important than several thousand Orlando residents? Maybe, but let’s get to the issue at hand. Orlando Weekly runs the largest public opinion vote for its dining, drinks, music, nightlife, arts, and culture each year called, “The Best of Orlando”. The people, the residents of Orlando, are asked each year to cast their votes for the very best Orlando has to offer, and each year, Orlando Weekly throws the “Biggest Party of the year” to honor the winners, as they shut down a block of downtown Orlando and bask in their own glory for hosting such an amazing event. There’s just one problem. The voting is fake. Out of 100 categories people can vote in for their favorite places to get a bite to eat, maybe a drink or two, catch a music show, and so on, only about 80% of the categories are actually people’s choice, while the biggest and most important awards can’t possibly be left to the people to decide. I mean, come on, what do people know about their local community anyway, right? Instead, the editorial staffs of the Orlando Weekly simply chose the biggest category winners themselves and couple it with additional awards called “Staff Picks”. I know what you’re thinking, Nooooo. That can’t possibly be true. Orlando Weekly is too cool to do something like that! Sadly, the evidence is a bit overwhelming. Orlando weekly does not use a third party system for their voting. This year they simply used software to collect the data called, Second Street. Their editorial staffs, all 4-5 of them, were still in charge of tallying “votes”. Is it a coincidence that businesses that did not campaign for any votes won first, second and third place in the biggest categories? Though strange, we can’t simply assume anyone is cheating just because they didn’t even campaign, but let’s look at another fact. The exact same business’s that did not campaign at all, also had over 100 articles written about them by the Orlando Weekly staff editors and reporters? The editorial staff have made no secret to anyone who their favorite places to hang out are, and they tell all of us on a weekly basis to go there too. Well that seems like a big coincidence, but still not proof. Well, how about this. What if I told you about a local business that collected several thousand, with a capital T, votes from its customers in the very same categories that would normally go to their usual winners? You would think as a fair public opinion poll, the establishment with the most number of public votes, wins? Sadly, no. Orlando weekly does not release any stats at all as to the number of votes any business receives, ever. You can contact their office and simply ask how many votes did so and so get in 2013, 2014, 2015 or now in 2016 and their answer is simply, “We do not disclose the number of votes”. A quote from the editor in charge was simply, “Other papers, like the Orlando Sentinel, don’t disclose the numbers in their polls, why should we?” Actually, the Orlando Sentinel does post their numbers, and most of their voting is with live results as people vote. Who does Orlando Weekly think they protect by hiding this sensitive people’s choice community award data from? Russia? I make light of this matter, but it’s a dark and distressing reality when an honest campaign, by the people, is shut down because it does not fit in with the editorial staff opinions. We feel like Bernie Sanders right now. We never stood a chance. =(
We have physical proof of thousands of votes; all we are asking for is transparency for the name you bare on your cover and city you write for. Disclose the actual results of the people’s poll; past, present and future. Use an actual third party vendor. Post the actual votes tallied like Orlando Sentinel does in the public polls. We all know you can afford it, simply cut down on the 100 parties you throw each year. A small local business challenging a large circulation paper in a major U.S. city is nuts. If you decide to bury us in negative press, we have no course of response. If you decide to attack me personally, my character let me save you some investigative journalism time. I am nowhere near perfect. Im actually kind of shit, really. I’ve been bad to people, bad in relationships, yes I’ve been arrested, you’re damn right I inhaled when it comes to drugs, and I have bad grammar. Being a shit, doesn’t make me wrong or a sore loser. The love and support of our customers and staff, which makes our place awesome, is why I wrote this letter. You defrauded them, and now you’re on my shit list. If you’re a business that feels it’s been defrauded like us, use the #comecleanorlandoweekly and tell us your story. We know we are not the only ones. In closing, we would like to ask for everyone’s support in signing a petition we are creating for transparent results in all future public opinion polls done by Orlando Weekly.. The residents of Orlando deserve it.

Your move, Goliath. We are David, we have a rock, and we have great aim!
Sincerely,
Selman Markovic
Executive Janitor of The Copper Rocket Pub, and generally a shit guy."


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Mark Rivera Wow. Spot on. And I live in Tampa!
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Tim Pennock Truth = Transparency.
other small time magazines also use the same "preferential treatment" for friends and advertisers.

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Zac Starinchuck I'm behind you all the way buddy
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Suzanne Garand I don't need any small potatoes local paper to tell me who the no. 1 pub in Orlando is because as far as I am concerned it's The Copper Rocket Pub...and that's final. We should get everyone together and have that best of party at the Pub and take out a "paid" ad in the Orlando Sentinel inviting everyone to the best pub in Orlando. 
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The Copper Rocket Pub Thank you. Not a bad idea. Please sign. And share the petition. Together our voices can make a change
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Juan Abinader Those fucking bitchz!!!
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The Copper Rocket Pub Sign and share
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William Klauck Like the Orlando sentinel,
Orlando weakly caters to the ones who pay the advertising and have friends with interests in those businesses.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Please sign and share the petition! Let's make real change happen!
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Scott Po Right on!
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Eric Love I'm in.
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Walter Bogumil U guys rock! Awesome service, incredible beer selection, best wings in otown, my type of place. You take top spot in my poll. 🍺🍻🍗🍻🍺
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Gordon Hilton I can't believe I am reading this. I picked up the much larger than previous years issue and the first thing I noticed is the top winners were also the ones with the biggest ads. Full page ads were always the winners. Great business but low on ethics
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The Copper Rocket Pub Ethics? One example. Drink around the hood. Your beloved paper charges vendors $150-$250 (10-15 vendors) to set up a table on the street and give away free product all night, but at the same time, you charge customers on the front end $15-20 to attend the event,(400-500 guests) then staff it with 20 interns. Thats just one night. That's just a single example. It's not a poor small paper.
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Katie Ball It is standard practice for winners to be notified ahead of time so they can say thank you with a paid ad that will receive a lot more readership than usual. It's called business.
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Ashley Belanger As someone who has counted the votes in the past for the category you belong, I can confirm there is not only no rigging to this system, but we spend countless hours into making sure that the votes are counted and represented, even when we disagree and roll our eyes at repeat winners, year after year. This is really depressing to read you bashing an invested staff who is trying to celebrate an entire year of hard work, just because you didn't win. Sour grapes belong in wine, the Weekly is a small paper with a very small budget. The parties you are pointing to are ad-sales vehicles and funded by sponsors, not the paper. This is not a rich tyrant. The staff picks were my favorite part of participating in OW's BOO, because it allowed me to see what good things were overlooked in the general readers poll and provide a decent time capsule. This is one of the most ridiculous rants I have ever read.
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Jacob Kaplan Yes! Also, that guy's business card says "I bought a bar".
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Joshua David Martin Fucking Publix won again for best sandwich. It is clearly not rigged.

Plus, Will's is great. And Mills 50 is a better place to hang out than Maitland.

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Ashley Belanger If I get 100 votes for being right, I'll move back to Orlando and defend OW till the day I die!!!! JK, I don't let silly opinion polls dictate my life.
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Maxx Wessel Yeah for real. Why would you campaign for best bar. Spend that money on being the best bar. This is butthurt.
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Andrea Urrea I'm gonna start a petition to get Ashleyback to Orlando. Seems like a better campaign to me.
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Christopher Ramsey Call me a shill, call me a proletariat, but I like a Publix sandwich. The wonderful thing about this town is that we have both Will's and The Copper Rocket. The world needs just a few more like Messrs. Walker and Markovic.
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Maxx Wessel I hate Publix as a company but they do have the best sandwiches for their price. Plus you can wild out with Boarshead on a special occasion. Their meats and cheeses bring all the boys to the yard.
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Ashley Belanger Further, I would like to say that I really dig Copper Rocket a lot. I don't work for OW anymore, I moved to Chicago, but the trajectory Copper Rocket is on should be enough to make you feed good about your business, Selman. I know you are working hard to revive the spirit of Rocket and give it your own flavor. You are doing good in the community. So is OW. It's a bummer when you don't win, but don't blame other people. Awards are not important, dignity and community are.
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The Copper Rocket Pub So why not show the numbers of a public opinion poll?
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Adrian Ault Brown I bet that the polls would show that you aren't as popular as you think you are. Get over it. Not everyone's a winner. You're doing a diservice to your business acting this way.
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The Copper Rocket Pub I and countless other businesses would love to see how low we did so we can improve for future years. They keep a public poll numbers secret is why we are asking for change.
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Adrian Ault Brown I have a business and I couldn't give 2 shits about this. This contest doesn't effect your business but your cry baby rant probably will...you've succeeded in looking like a total ass. Way to go!
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The Copper Rocket Pub So you agree with a non transparent public poll that never delivers final vote? What's the point of that adrian?
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Erin Sullivan The Copper Rocket Pub I can say why I personally would never want to show those numbers when I was the editor: Because no matter what you do or how you do it, when you run this poll you get raked over the coals by businesses who are hurt, upset or angry that they didn't win. And when they see how badly they didn't win, they accuse you of not counting all of their votes. Or if they see how massively somebody ELSE won, they accuse that person of cheating or ballot stuffing, paying for votes or otherwise being a terrible business. If they did the ballot stuffing and got caught, they then cry foul because they advertise. The list goes on and on, and the conversations sometimes degrade into accusations of illegal activity and border on defamation. I've worked for three alt-weeklies in different cities, and the words may be different, but the song is always the same. Sadly, this poll always brings out the worst in people, and while it's a fun issue to read if you're a reader, it's often an absolute nightmare if you work for the publication.
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Ashley Belanger As usual, Erin says everything I want to say but better.
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Erin Sullivan Ashley Belanger You inspired me to post anything at all! 
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The Copper Rocket Pub Erin Sullivan that's was very well said, but can you explain why a third party vendor is not used? I've been told on multiple occasions by OW staff, certain categories receive nearly zero votes, so the staff choose for the people. How can you claim a fair and transparent system when results are treated as secret? If a third party vendor is used, the issue of bias, ballot stuffing, or general cheating would be removed? Public polls held by other papers in the city show the results, why should OW be the exclusion?
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Ashley Belanger You choose to ignore where I already answered that. This fight is so obnoxious, and again, I have no idea how you aren't embarrassed yet.
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Ashley Belanger Also you continue to blatantly spread unfounded rumors to support your point. In categories with low votes, there is always a winner. The staff doesn't pick any winners that are not popularly voted. If a staff member told you that, my guess is that staff member is actually not involved in counting votes, because the only people who count votes are the small team of editors.
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Erin Sullivan The Copper Rocket Pub Second Street media IS a third-party vendor. We used to do it in-house, and we had our own software that tallied the votes and it took FOREVER. Like, weeks. Then Second Street Media developed a polling software that we switched to, because it became the "industry standard" for a lot of media companies and it's used by lots of weeklies for their polls. It tallies the votes for you in a preliminary way, but then the editors have to go in and make aaaaaalllll of the votes match up right. So if Le Coq Au Vin gets 600 votes, and La Cock Oh Vine got antoher 150, then Le Coq got another 1,000, the computer can't tally that. You have to do it manually.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Ashley Belanger Exactly my point Ashley. Only a small staff of editors counts. Not a independent third party vendor. The rumors of OW being rigged has been around much longer than me, lol
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Erin Sullivan The Copper Rocket Pub Those rumors persist in every city I've ever lived in where there was an alt-weekly. And in every weekly where i've worked, it's never been true. I mean, I guess you just have to take my word for it because I can't prove anything....See More
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Ashley Belanger Yes as long as there are people who take themselves too seriously and do not believe in earning merits. What a sour person you are who refuses to look at logic and blush at your foolish tirade.
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Ashley Belanger He doesn't want to understand why this is the best way. He wants to be right. He is wrong. So this whole thing is a waste of time.
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The Copper Rocket Pub A public poll that is kept secret from the public will never be the best way, but as a fomer editor of OW, you know better than all of us, and thats the point.
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Ashley Belanger If you put as much energy into being a genuinely good thing as you do into being a hugely bitter naysayer, you might win back some of the patrons you are alienating with this crusade.
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The Copper Rocket Pub The patrons is who this is for, and the patrons are the ones signing the peition too. Who knows, maybe we will get 100! fingers crossed
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Ashley Belanger Tell me, please. How is this for the patrons in any way?
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Ashley Belanger I'm a patron, and I don't see it.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Its a public poll, and they want transparency like we do. Or did you forget that BOO is a public poll?
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Ashley Belanger Sigh. Talking point is talking point. Your straw is bent, and now you can't even drink yr own kool-aid. I thought you might be rational, but your refusal to acknowledge the logic presented just shows that this is emotional for you, because you think you should've won, even though you are clearly and obviously not the most popular bar in Orlando.
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The Copper Rocket Pub We can both sigh. I'm taking on insults, bashing, asking for a simple transparent system that does not involve 5 people locked in a room. You can spin this however you please. You're the professional writer, not me. My grammar is poor at best.
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Ashley Belanger You do see the hypocrisy in calling something rigged that you tried to rig? Why do you think you should have won? I know you were trading beers for ballots, because I saw you do it. I filled it out and laughed, because I knew the vote wouldn't count because you didn't have all the criteria on your ballots to make them valid.
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Phillip Siegenthaler DUH ORLANDO WEEKLY PAY MONEY TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO HANDLE THIS SMALL ANNUAL THANKS TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THE 5th OWNER IN 12 YEARS OF A THIS BAR AND HIS (silent, but outraged?) PATRONS CAN KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS THING THAT ULTIMATELY WILL NOT HELP OR HURT ANYONE!
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Phillip Siegenthaler also... how do you have "physical" evidence of votes?
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Ashley Belanger Copper Rocket created their own paper ballots so they could input people's votes for them, but those ballots didn't have all the criteria needed for a valid vote, and the way they collected the votes actually violates the clear rules of participating in BOO. So, Selman actually is the one in the wrong here, on every count. http://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/BestofOrlando2016/Page

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Phillip Siegenthaler so a bar that hasn't been relevant to the community in a long time was bought, expensively remodeled (heard they won an award, congrats)... then when the boo comes around they kinda illegally collected votes that don't really count and now they're mad that much more popular bars won the award they wanted? meh... maybe season 2 will be better
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Ashley Belanger STOP SPINNING, PHIL.
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Erin Sullivan Oooooh, wow. Well, that'd change some things then.
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Phillip Siegenthaler wait? and they won an editors choice award - that sort of defeats their argument? what is happening here
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Rich Evans So let's see. This bar got so many thousands of vote that it should clearly be in the top three but they are struggling to get 100 people to sign their petition.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Ashley Belanger this was approved by OW at the beginning and now we are called cheats?
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The Copper Rocket Pub Ashley Belanger this was approved by OW at the very beginning. All criteria was there. Now you're calling us cheats?
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Ashley Belanger There is no address fields on those ballots.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Rich Evans it's been 1 day. Thousands of votes might take a little time.
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Ashley Belanger Again, I don't work for OW anymore or speak for them, but when i saw those ballots, i thought, what a waste of effort, these votes won't count.
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Rich Evans maybe if you give out more free beers you can get more votes.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Ashley Belanger so please don't accuse us of cheating. Our customers and staff did nothing wrong.
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Ashley Belanger Oh man, it sucks to be accused of cheating when you didn't, doesn't it?
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Rich Evans maybe you should have gotten a third party involved in your vote collecting. How do we know that once the ballots were in your hand you didn't change the way people voted?
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Ashley Belanger It's almost like you could understand how someone accusing you of cheating when you didn't reflects poorly on you and your staff.
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Ashley Belanger You have spent all day insulting my friends, businesses I love, a paper I respect and hard-working people. You should be ashamed that this is how you waste your efforts. You should be embarrassed by your change.org petition on a site that has legitimate causes side by side with your selfish whine. You should stop claiming this whole charade is for anything except your wounded pride.

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The Copper Rocket Pub OW has been accused for years. We have our proof, why dont they just post the secret numbers?
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Ashley Belanger The logic has been shared with you. You refuse to accept it.
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Rich Evans The Copper Rocket Pub That's why I voted Jill Stein for best bar
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Ashley Belanger Your proof is a bunch of ballots that are invalid.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Rich Evans Our card clearly states the exact thing they are voting for and contains all the date OW wanted, as it was approved for use by OW.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Ashley Belanger Invalid? Your friends approved it yet you call it invalid? Your right. it is invalid, the 4-5 staff members know whats best for the public.
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Ashley Belanger Seems like your beef is actually with whoever told you those ballots would work.
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Erin Sullivan The Copper Rocket Pub Maybe this is something that you should take up with the person who approved these. Because we never counted paper votes, and our third-party software actually used to invalidate multiple votes from the same person. So you can't vote "for" somebody else. Each person had to fill out their own online ballot, with their own unique information ... otherwise the ballot would automatically be thrown out ... not sure if that's what happened here. But it could be ... just basing that on my previous years of experience with these voting systems.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Ashley Belanger The staff of OW approved them. Whats your next spin on this? Third Party Vendor is the fair and right thing, how anyone could be against transparency is amazing
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Ashley Belanger Who exactly approved that ballot?
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Ashley Belanger Cuz it doesn't work that way. And there is a third party vendor. We are talking in circles because you have 3 things you like saying and you won't budge once you get a valid answer.
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The Copper Rocket Pub The Editors of OW.
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Ashley Belanger You are just lying at this point.
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The Copper Rocket Pub There is no third party vendor. They use software from Second Street and by your own words, 4-5 editors sit and tally votes.
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Will Richey Didn't you win best remodel?
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The Copper Rocket Pub Only that they do not release a public opinion results. I made the petition clear. I'm happy with the back lash of a few when the many feel the same way for years about a closed system
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Adam Heath Avitable Selman, this is unprofessional and unbecoming of a business owner. You have a cool establishment with a lot of potential, but it's tarnished by this unnecessary tantrum.
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The Copper Rocket Pub I'm fine with back lash. I expect it. A lot of us are only asking a public opinion poll in the future is to show numbers.
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Jeffy Nowlin Best Butt-Hurt Bar award goes to... 3,000 bars in greater Orlando and you're not in the top 3... must be a rigged system. Yawn.
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Aaron Harriss Consolation prize:
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Paco Rabanne Whiny bitch.
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Bubba Smith You didn't win a public opinion poll? Who cares. You didn't win a "rigged" poll? Who cares? Your name being in a free magazine doesn't matter. Having the right people, product and atmosphere in your place of business does...that's what puts asses in seats and makes them come back.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Agreed Bubba, but for years now people have said its rigged and the staff refuses every year to disclose final results of a public opinion poll. We are asking the change for everyone, not just us.
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Joshua David Martin Huh. Well, it seems you guys have ramped up the false martyrdom to 100%.

I really see no reason to patronize a place that is so willfully shitty to its bar community. Regardless of your gripe with Orlando Weekly, what you are really doing is being awful to other great establishments in town. ...See More

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Brandon Geurts Just because you didn't win this popularity contest doesn't mean you get to compare yourself to Bernie Sanders, dude.
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Brandon Geurts Also, the staff picks usually end up being the most relevant and interesting ones and you won a category anyways, so...
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Aubrey Hess Isn't about popular vote? That means Orlando doesn't like you Copper Rocket, not The Weekly.
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Sharli' Ward The right thing to do as a business owner is to embarrass your staff with your own ego-centric agenda? Alienating your fellow community members and bar owners? Even denigrating potential patrons is the "right thing to do"?

This isn't just a foolish personal move, it's a foolish business one. And by far, not a tactful one, by any means.

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The Copper Rocket Pub I can take the insults and I appreciate everyone's opinion. I'm just asking for a transparent third party vendor. That's all.
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The Copper Rocket Pub I questioned it last year without participating, and way before we began to participate.
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Larry Fulford Open letter to authors of open letters:

Please make paragraphs.

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Benjamin Sawin Wow, someone is slightly bitter.
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Erik Grincewicz Mr. Markovic maybe if you showed up to the Black Cabal meetings of Orlando Bar&Entertainment sect on a solstice blood offering maybe we could get you a mention next year. Or you could throw out your touch tunes jukebox and try and make your bar cool.
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The Copper Rocket Pub Tried to throw it, nearly killed me. Those things are so heavy. Im a skinny guy, not much blood to spare, but thanks for the thought
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Wendy Hummel This rant is as embarrassing as it is long winded. When the original owners had the Copper Rocket it won awards - they were hard earned and well deserved - not expected. (Also, the owners and staff were supportive of other local establishments).
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Carly Johnson If a man doesn't get something he wants and nobody is around to hear about it, is it still a conspiracy? One of the great mysteries of life
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Joe Cater Thanks Obama!
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Marc Sirdoreus I placed second in two categories (best pop/best songwriter) and the OW neeeeeever covers me, I didn't campaign AND they didn't invite me to their party. What do you make of that?
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The Copper Rocket Pub as I stated in the long winded letter, about 80% of the categories are by the people, its just certain categories that the editors have created a secrecy about. Congrats to you
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Matt Lapham Awwww....Lil babies....I should be able to make a living just playing music. I know I'm more than capable enough. I promise you, as a musician of I've 30 years, I've been screwed longer and harder than almost any of you bar service industry types, but ...See More
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John Collazo I totally agree with you! They called me practically begging me to buy a page for yesterday's release, they offered 1/4, 1/2 or a whole page ad for a nominal fee of course, after I hung up, I fell as if I didn't buy that advertising space I wouldn't win. Then publix wins in our category, which so happens to be one of the bigger sponsors at the event. I don't care my company didn't win I could care less, but someone else with an actual Orlando local shop should have taken the award...
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Eric Wright So you're telling me that a business with a couple shops or even just one shop is going to somehow beat out the promotional advertising of a nationally well known and popular Store that has a location on almost every other block where the two biggest t...See More
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Eric Wright Also that's not a comment on the quality of your food that's a comment on the reach and how many people know the name publix versus know the name of your store
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John Collazo Yes but it is called THE BEST OF ORLANDO! not the best of Florida nor best of national!
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John Collazo Oh trust me I know your point and thank you for the input!  
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The Copper Rocket Pub Sign and share the petition, it's the only way to get change.
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Ark Calkins duuuuude whaaaaattt

That was hard to read, mostly due to the excessive amount of privilege underlining nearly every sentence and point. ...See More

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Brandon Gardner I find it soooo funny how the event sponsor also wins an award for the only category they fit into...
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Hannah Meow-ler "For 25 yeers, you have been the pulse..." Did I just read that?

Did you really just insinuate, in your first sentence, a connection between the massacre that ripped a hole through the heart of Orlando and--...See More

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